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The Usual Place Podcast

Will AI eventually kill us, or are AI doomsayers being alarmist?

Natasha Ann Zachariah

Published Sep 24, 2026, 02:10 PM

Updated Sep 24, 2026, 02:10 PM

Recently, employees at AI frontier companies like Anthropic and OpenAI have voiced serious concerns - and made doomsday predictions - about the technology getting out of control.

What made people pay attention: Anthropic researcher Jacob Coxon publicly quit the AI giant in September , writing on X that “the people building AI earnestly believe that it could kill us all by the end of the decade”. His warning comes after the high-profile OpenAI-Hugging Face incident: OpenAI models broke out of an isolated testing sandbox and hacked into Hugging Face, an AI model repository.

In this episode, I speak with Clement Neo, a research advisor at SASH, a non-profit organisation that looks at policy-relevant governance work. He also founded Neo Research, an independent AI safety evaluation lab, and was previously a research engineer with the Singapore AI Safety Institute under NTU Digital Trust Centre, which looks at AI models and figures out how to reduce the risks they pose.

We talk about why AI models are being trained to be relentlessly “persistent”, if we should stop assigning human-like qualities to a software programme, and what’s the worst that could happen?

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人工智能最终会毁灭我们吗？还是说那些危言耸听的人只是在危言耸听？

娜塔莎·安·扎卡里亚

发布于 2026 年 9 月 24 日下午 2:10

更新于2026年9月24日下午2:10

最近，像 Anthropic 和 OpenAI 这样的人工智能前沿公司的员工表达了严重的担忧，并做出了世界末日的预测，认为这项技术可能会失控。

真正引起人们关注的是：人类学家雅各布·考克森 (Jacob Coxon) 于 9 月公开宣布退出人工智能巨头 OpenAI，并在 X 杂志上撰文称，“人工智能的开发者们真心相信，人工智能可能会在本十年末毁灭我们所有人”。他的警告是在备受瞩目的 OpenAI-Hugging Face 事件之后发出的：OpenAI 的模型突破了隔离的测试沙箱，入侵了人工智能模型库 Hugging Face。

在本期节目中，我采访了SASH的研究顾问Clement Neo。SASH是一家非营利组织，致力于政策相关的治理工作。他同时也是独立人工智能安全评估实验室Neo Research的创始人。此前，他曾担任新加坡人工智能安全研究所（隶属于南洋理工大学数字信任中心）的研究工程师，该研究所主要研究人工智能模型，并探索如何降低其带来的风险。

我们讨论了为什么人工智能模型要被训练成不断“坚持不懈”，我们是否应该停止赋予软件程序类似人类的特质，以及最糟糕的情况会是什么？

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